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Netscape Founder Backs New Browser - NYTimes.com

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technology, internet, web-design, web-development, mozilla, start-up, browsers, netscape, browser-wars, marc-andreessen, rockmelt
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It has been 15 years since Marc Andreessen developed the Netscape Internet browser that introduced millions of people to the Internet.

Marc Andreessen in 1996. Netscape was the dominant Web browser until Microsoft introduced Internet Explorer.

After its early success, Netscape was roundly defeated by Microsoft in the so-called browser wars of the 1990s that dominated the Web's first chapter.

Mr. Andreessen appears to want a rematch. Now a prominent Silicon Valley financier, Mr. Andreessen is backing a start-up called RockMelt, staffed with some of his close associates, that is building a new Internet browser, according to people with knowledge of his investment.

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Chris Casciano

unfortunately the story is pretty weak in terms of technical details... i'd imagine by 'browser' they'd be focusing on UI and using an existing rendering engine [ala Chrome] but who knows....

Lots of projects like this have come and gone, and I can't pass judgement on this one until I see more.

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Reply#1 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:40 PM EDT
jpr12

I don't think they can base an entire startup off just slapping a skin on top of Chrome.

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#1.1 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
Chris Casciano

i meant 'like what chrome has done'... and others as well. Chrome itself is a skin on top of the same rendering engine in Safari.

Chrome is built on the webkit engine built
Flock is built on Gecko [the Mozilla team's rendering engine]
Shiira is based on Webkit
Camino uses Gecko
OmniWeb uses Gecko

hell, even the Safari took [and contributed back to] an existing rendering engine to make webkit

this is more interesting to web developers and designers then it is to the public - as each of the apps that use the same rendering engine then display web pages very similarly and a new rendering engine built from scratch would mean both a new target to test against as well as potentially something rather raw and bug prone.

but who knows.. the quote by Andreessen in the story is ""There are all kinds of things that you would do differently if you are building a browser from scratch," which can be about anything.

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#1.2 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:20 PM EDT
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usa1

Any one remember Mosiac? or better yet prompt (UNIX or DOS)access only (No GUI). Its been along time since browsers evolved. I am looking foward to new browsers if it is new technology.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:50 PM EDT
Dennis Kemmerer

My computer use began with Z-80 assembler, COBOL and BASIC.

While I haven't used those in [mumble-mumble] years, sometimes a task is just easier to accomplish with a good old DOS prompt and a batch file.

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#2.1 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
eriq samson

Shhh! You'll give all our secrets out!

Why do you think prompt based Unix admins are called "Guru's"?

And personally I would like to see a different view, paradigm. Get rid of the Apple / windows command line at the top fixation and go for something more interesting, interactive, easier to use

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:45 AM EDT
iconoclasm

I remember Mosiac and using prompts.

I'm wondering if the generation of twittering teenagers that our coming up would actually prefer commands and prompts rather to GUIs.

The next "new thing" might be a command box. Think of how easy it would be to have @ or something start a command in the http address text bar or search text bar.

We've already got them using cryptic commands to talk to one another and like OMG it's no BFD for them to use it with their BFFs.

So we need to CLS so we can give them a new DIR of commands yo. (Are we going with the dos DIR or the Unix LS?).

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:19 AM EDT
Chris Casciano

Firefox [and Camino and a maybe others] have bookmark keywords, which allow you to assign something like "commands" to bookmarks with up to one 'argument' [a simple replacement of %s in a bookmark's url. for example to search something in google i type "g something" or for yahoo its "y something" where the bookmarked 'url' looks like http://www.google.com/search?q=%s

Combine this with the ability to bookmark javascript snippets [bookmarklets] and I can type "valid" to run whatever the current page i'm on is in the w3c html validator, and even run external applications ... type "paparazzi" to launch the current page in the screenshot applications with the bookmark of "javascript:window.location.href='paparazzi:'+window.location.href"

Oh, and no one's gonna go with the DOS commands these days ;)

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#2.4 - Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:54 AM EDT
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